Like Flip Said, tren is much more powerful than EQ and you'll see nothing on 400mg EQ... you'll see great results on 400mg tren. If you go for EQ, increase the dose... 700mg or higher for great results. I know EQ and tren very well... and I can keep keep the same weight on 400 tren OR around 650 EQ, the same BF, better health, much less sides (acne, etc...). But tren makes you feel like a beast! I love those 2 drugs... just adjust the dose... going with tren, you can do it with 400, but with EQ, you'll need to use a little more... around 700mg for similar results.